Wednesday, January 27, 2010

A collection of Ben Goertzel Quotes






unification of Science and Spirit






"Q"My final historical conclusion is, then, that the separation of science from spirituality was necessary -- necessary in order that science could develop to the point it has today. Science is like a child who had to leave his home town for a few years, in order to develop into an adult. Once an adult, he can return home happily. Science is now mature. Science can return home now and takes its place with the rest of human experience. It is in the process of doing so. We can help it along. This book is a small part of the process. Unification of Science and Spirit chapter 1


"Q"A particular stress will be laid on the thought of Friedrich Nietzsche. More than any other Western philosopher, Nietzsche understood the insights of Eastern wisdom traditions. He admired certain aspects of them, and reviled others. His doctrine of the Superman is, I think, the only genuine Western challenge to the Eastern ideal of the "enlightened man." unification of Science and Spirit chapter 2




The All-Seeing (A)I


"Q"I’m psychologically twisted! 

"Q"One conjecture I have, then, is that “Be friendly to humans” will prove an unstable Prime Directive for goal-modifying-only AI’s.  My guess is that goal-modifying-only AI’s will tend to drift away from this goal over time, as they self-modify.  By and large, I think, they’ll drift in the direction of selfishness.

"Q"Against my hypothesis that “Be friendly to humans” will prove an unstable top-level goal,

"Q?" Why do you believe creating Ai is the safest route for humanity? 


"Q"Note, I am not opposed to giving an AI the explicit goal of “Be friendly to humans and all other sentient beings” or even “Be extra-friendly to humans because they were your creators.”  However, I suspect that such goals – unless bolstered by something like “Understanding the universe from the perspective of all sentient life forms” – are going to be unstable under iterated self-modification.  They may well be very useful, but only as simple adjuncts to a much more complex process of “universalized understanding.


"Q" AI get smart enough, all bets are off.


"Q"the best path to making AI’s friendly to humans is to give up on the idea of making friendliness-to-humans an AI’s Prime Directive – and to focus on making AI’s that can in essence think with the mind of the entire cosmos (... as well as thinking with their own minds, of course, and rationally considering themselves as distinct beings).  Minds of this nature will innately have respect for the entire cosmos, including humans.

The Cyborgization of Humanity

"Q"The power of brain-computer integration is obvious, and the danger at least equally so.  What happens when the neurochip crashes?  What about when some crazy hacker releases a virus into your mind?


"Q"To master love you may need the holy grail of cyborgization -- the fabled cranial jack, the two-way link from the computer to the brain.


"Q"The research will get done because of the tremendous humanitarian applications.  And then the Kevin Warwicks of the world – more and more of them as time goes on, adults who as kids spent endless hours watching cyborgs on Cartoon Network – will put the technology to use in other ways, ways that will make the techno-conservatives very uncomfortable.




Human thought processes can be genetically re-engineered to make more natural use of onboard calculators, computers, and petabyte in-brain memory modules.
Oh brave new world, that has such cyborgs in it?





The WorldWideBrain:
Using the WorldWideWeb to Implement Globally Distributed Cognition




"Q" WWW itself is an outstanding AI supercomputer

"Q"  In computer science terms, a pattern/process is a kind of agent. I have also called them "magicians," 

"Q"How much "encouraging" is necessary here is not really clear, at present. In the case of the human brain, it is unknown how much mental structure is obtained from genetics, how much is taught, and how much spontaneously emerges 

The Quest for Pharmacological Immortality

"Q"Nothing sounds more unscientific, more starry-eyed and unrealistic, than the quest for immortality.


Q"For instance, Larry Ellison, the controversial 55-year-old chief executive of Oracle, is the largest single supporter of anti-aging research, with $20 million per year committed.  He may be the second-richest man in the world, but he’s smart enough to realize that “you can’t take it with you” – and he’s deploying his wealth strategically with this in mind.  He makes no bones about his motivations. ``Death has never made any sense to me,” he says. “How can a person be there and the jusvanish, just not be there? … Death makes me very angry. Premature death makes me angrier still.”  



The Illusion of Immortality
and the Immortality of Illusions:

 "Q"I assume that human immortality is physically possible, sociologically, economically and psychologically practical, and morally acceptable

"Q"His human body was shed after a few thousand years of life – and he’s placed the episodic memories of his first century of life (the part that took place in humanly-embodied form) in a very-rarely-accessed portion of his memory, since it’s really not very interesting compared to some of the things that have happened to him since.

  "Q"If I, 2005 Ben Goertzel, am simply going to serve as the initial state for a completely different sort of being, then in what sense am “I” really becoming immortal?

 "Q"NFBen1 is produced via recording complete information about the physical parameters of all particles inside Ben Goertzel at a particular point in time, storing this information in a database, then completely annihilating Ben Goertzel – and then, 666 hours later, re-creating an exact copy of the previously annihilated Ben Goertzel from the database records

"Q" NFBen2 is produced via making the same kind of recording and re-creation, but doing the re-creation 10 microseconds after the annihilation, rather than 666 years.

 The Cosmist Manifesto

"Q"In Cosmism, humans are valued as sentient beings and complex pattern-systems, but they're not viewed as uniquely important, and if it happened that the persistence of humanity violently contradicted higher, broader values, then the values would win

A collection of Ben Goertzel Quotes






unification of Science and Spirit






"Q"My final historical conclusion is, then, that the separation of science from spirituality was necessary -- necessary in order that science could develop to the point it has today. Science is like a child who had to leave his home town for a few years, in order to develop into an adult. Once an adult, he can return home happily. Science is now mature. Science can return home now and takes its place with the rest of human experience. It is in the process of doing so. We can help it along. This book is a small part of the process. Unification of Science and Spirit chapter 1


"Q"A particular stress will be laid on the thought of Friedrich Nietzsche. More than any other Western philosopher, Nietzsche understood the insights of Eastern wisdom traditions. He admired certain aspects of them, and reviled others. His doctrine of the Superman is, I think, the only genuine Western challenge to the Eastern ideal of the "enlightened man." unification of Science and Spirit chapter 2




The All-Seeing (A)I


"Q"I’m psychologically twisted! 

"Q"One conjecture I have, then, is that “Be friendly to humans” will prove an unstable Prime Directive for goal-modifying-only AI’s.  My guess is that goal-modifying-only AI’s will tend to drift away from this goal over time, as they self-modify.  By and large, I think, they’ll drift in the direction of selfishness.

"Q"Against my hypothesis that “Be friendly to humans” will prove an unstable top-level goal,

"Q?" Why do you believe creating Ai is the safest route for humanity? 


"Q"Note, I am not opposed to giving an AI the explicit goal of “Be friendly to humans and all other sentient beings” or even “Be extra-friendly to humans because they were your creators.”  However, I suspect that such goals – unless bolstered by something like “Understanding the universe from the perspective of all sentient life forms” – are going to be unstable under iterated self-modification.  They may well be very useful, but only as simple adjuncts to a much more complex process of “universalized understanding.


"Q" AI get smart enough, all bets are off.


"Q"the best path to making AI’s friendly to humans is to give up on the idea of making friendliness-to-humans an AI’s Prime Directive – and to focus on making AI’s that can in essence think with the mind of the entire cosmos (... as well as thinking with their own minds, of course, and rationally considering themselves as distinct beings).  Minds of this nature will innately have respect for the entire cosmos, including humans.

The Cyborgization of Humanity

"Q"The power of brain-computer integration is obvious, and the danger at least equally so.  What happens when the neurochip crashes?  What about when some crazy hacker releases a virus into your mind?


"Q"To master love you may need the holy grail of cyborgization -- the fabled cranial jack, the two-way link from the computer to the brain.


"Q"The research will get done because of the tremendous humanitarian applications.  And then the Kevin Warwicks of the world – more and more of them as time goes on, adults who as kids spent endless hours watching cyborgs on Cartoon Network – will put the technology to use in other ways, ways that will make the techno-conservatives very uncomfortable.




Human thought processes can be genetically re-engineered to make more natural use of onboard calculators, computers, and petabyte in-brain memory modules.
Oh brave new world, that has such cyborgs in it?





The WorldWideBrain:
Using the WorldWideWeb to Implement Globally Distributed Cognition




"Q" WWW itself is an outstanding AI supercomputer

"Q"  In computer science terms, a pattern/process is a kind of agent. I have also called them "magicians," 

"Q"How much "encouraging" is necessary here is not really clear, at present. In the case of the human brain, it is unknown how much mental structure is obtained from genetics, how much is taught, and how much spontaneously emerges 

The Quest for Pharmacological Immortality

"Q"Nothing sounds more unscientific, more starry-eyed and unrealistic, than the quest for immortality.


Q"For instance, Larry Ellison, the controversial 55-year-old chief executive of Oracle, is the largest single supporter of anti-aging research, with $20 million per year committed.  He may be the second-richest man in the world, but he’s smart enough to realize that “you can’t take it with you” – and he’s deploying his wealth strategically with this in mind.  He makes no bones about his motivations. ``Death has never made any sense to me,” he says. “How can a person be there and the jusvanish, just not be there? … Death makes me very angry. Premature death makes me angrier still.”  



The Illusion of Immortality
and the Immortality of Illusions:

 "Q"I assume that human immortality is physically possible, sociologically, economically and psychologically practical, and morally acceptable

"Q"His human body was shed after a few thousand years of life – and he’s placed the episodic memories of his first century of life (the part that took place in humanly-embodied form) in a very-rarely-accessed portion of his memory, since it’s really not very interesting compared to some of the things that have happened to him since.

  "Q"If I, 2005 Ben Goertzel, am simply going to serve as the initial state for a completely different sort of being, then in what sense am “I” really becoming immortal?

 "Q"NFBen1 is produced via recording complete information about the physical parameters of all particles inside Ben Goertzel at a particular point in time, storing this information in a database, then completely annihilating Ben Goertzel – and then, 666 hours later, re-creating an exact copy of the previously annihilated Ben Goertzel from the database records

"Q" NFBen2 is produced via making the same kind of recording and re-creation, but doing the re-creation 10 microseconds after the annihilation, rather than 666 years.

 The Cosmist Manifesto

"Q"In Cosmism, humans are valued as sentient beings and complex pattern-systems, but they're not viewed as uniquely important, and if it happened that the persistence of humanity violently contradicted higher, broader values, then the values would win

A collection of Ben Goertzel Quotes






unification of Science and Spirit






"Q"My final historical conclusion is, then, that the separation of science from spirituality was necessary -- necessary in order that science could develop to the point it has today. Science is like a child who had to leave his home town for a few years, in order to develop into an adult. Once an adult, he can return home happily. Science is now mature. Science can return home now and takes its place with the rest of human experience. It is in the process of doing so. We can help it along. This book is a small part of the process. Unification of Science and Spirit chapter 1


"Q"A particular stress will be laid on the thought of Friedrich Nietzsche. More than any other Western philosopher, Nietzsche understood the insights of Eastern wisdom traditions. He admired certain aspects of them, and reviled others. His doctrine of the Superman is, I think, the only genuine Western challenge to the Eastern ideal of the "enlightened man." unification of Science and Spirit chapter 2




The All-Seeing (A)I


"Q"I’m psychologically twisted! 

"Q"One conjecture I have, then, is that “Be friendly to humans” will prove an unstable Prime Directive for goal-modifying-only AI’s.  My guess is that goal-modifying-only AI’s will tend to drift away from this goal over time, as they self-modify.  By and large, I think, they’ll drift in the direction of selfishness.

"Q"Against my hypothesis that “Be friendly to humans” will prove an unstable top-level goal,

"Q?" Why do you believe creating Ai is the safest route for humanity? 


"Q"Note, I am not opposed to giving an AI the explicit goal of “Be friendly to humans and all other sentient beings” or even “Be extra-friendly to humans because they were your creators.”  However, I suspect that such goals – unless bolstered by something like “Understanding the universe from the perspective of all sentient life forms” – are going to be unstable under iterated self-modification.  They may well be very useful, but only as simple adjuncts to a much more complex process of “universalized understanding.


"Q" AI get smart enough, all bets are off.


"Q"the best path to making AI’s friendly to humans is to give up on the idea of making friendliness-to-humans an AI’s Prime Directive – and to focus on making AI’s that can in essence think with the mind of the entire cosmos (... as well as thinking with their own minds, of course, and rationally considering themselves as distinct beings).  Minds of this nature will innately have respect for the entire cosmos, including humans.

The Cyborgization of Humanity

"Q"The power of brain-computer integration is obvious, and the danger at least equally so.  What happens when the neurochip crashes?  What about when some crazy hacker releases a virus into your mind?


"Q"To master love you may need the holy grail of cyborgization -- the fabled cranial jack, the two-way link from the computer to the brain.


"Q"The research will get done because of the tremendous humanitarian applications.  And then the Kevin Warwicks of the world – more and more of them as time goes on, adults who as kids spent endless hours watching cyborgs on Cartoon Network – will put the technology to use in other ways, ways that will make the techno-conservatives very uncomfortable.




Human thought processes can be genetically re-engineered to make more natural use of onboard calculators, computers, and petabyte in-brain memory modules.
Oh brave new world, that has such cyborgs in it?





The WorldWideBrain:
Using the WorldWideWeb to Implement Globally Distributed Cognition




"Q" WWW itself is an outstanding AI supercomputer

"Q"  In computer science terms, a pattern/process is a kind of agent. I have also called them "magicians," 

"Q"How much "encouraging" is necessary here is not really clear, at present. In the case of the human brain, it is unknown how much mental structure is obtained from genetics, how much is taught, and how much spontaneously emerges 

The Quest for Pharmacological Immortality

"Q"Nothing sounds more unscientific, more starry-eyed and unrealistic, than the quest for immortality.


Q"For instance, Larry Ellison, the controversial 55-year-old chief executive of Oracle, is the largest single supporter of anti-aging research, with $20 million per year committed.  He may be the second-richest man in the world, but he’s smart enough to realize that “you can’t take it with you” – and he’s deploying his wealth strategically with this in mind.  He makes no bones about his motivations. ``Death has never made any sense to me,” he says. “How can a person be there and the jusvanish, just not be there? … Death makes me very angry. Premature death makes me angrier still.”  



The Illusion of Immortality
and the Immortality of Illusions:

 "Q"I assume that human immortality is physically possible, sociologically, economically and psychologically practical, and morally acceptable

"Q"His human body was shed after a few thousand years of life – and he’s placed the episodic memories of his first century of life (the part that took place in humanly-embodied form) in a very-rarely-accessed portion of his memory, since it’s really not very interesting compared to some of the things that have happened to him since.

  "Q"If I, 2005 Ben Goertzel, am simply going to serve as the initial state for a completely different sort of being, then in what sense am “I” really becoming immortal?

 "Q"NFBen1 is produced via recording complete information about the physical parameters of all particles inside Ben Goertzel at a particular point in time, storing this information in a database, then completely annihilating Ben Goertzel – and then, 666 hours later, re-creating an exact copy of the previously annihilated Ben Goertzel from the database records

"Q" NFBen2 is produced via making the same kind of recording and re-creation, but doing the re-creation 10 microseconds after the annihilation, rather than 666 years.

 The Cosmist Manifesto

"Q"In Cosmism, humans are valued as sentient beings and complex pattern-systems, but they're not viewed as uniquely important, and if it happened that the persistence of humanity violently contradicted higher, broader values, then the values would win

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